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So you don't like OC-Canon? by Lentertament So you don't like OC-Canon? by Lentertament
You thought I wouldnít voice out my opinion in stamp mode ever again? Wrong!

So there are people who do not support OC/Canon parings, Iíve seen them and I also saw an Anti OC/Canon group (Really, theyíre avatar was Lolsy and look to be done by a freaking 5-year old, next time, get someone who knows how to make art).

All I can say is, thatís perfectly fine, itís an Opinion if you do not support of even Hate OC/Canon parings. I can also understand why you may hate them; some Original Characters are just created so they can screw with the Canon character, no story development, no consent, just sex.

However, the fact is there are people out there who will support it and you cannot change that fact. It is like a fan-base, some people like it, some will not.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, you may hate it, fine, but other will think differently.

One argument though that is brought up is that an OC is a Mary Sue/Gary Stu if their character is in a relationship with a Canon. So it doesnít matter how original the backstory or design is whether it be detailed with everything, have weaknesses as well as straights, if itís in a relationship with a Canon itís automatically a Sue/Stu? How that Logic work weíll never know

Also, when you go onto someoneís deviation or channel and tell them how much their paring sucks, what are you trying to achieve? Are you trying to convert them into a hater?
Really, there would be three reasons why would you do this:
1) You would be trying to help them develop their Original Character so that the relationship could be more believable.
2) You are a troll, and you are trying to get them angry to get attention.
3) You are just a raging nuttier, who thinks by telling someone that OC/Canon parings suck youíll be achieving something though all youíll be doing is taking what should be taken for fun too serious (A.K.A. You are an Internet Jackass U JELLY? :trollface:).
Same goes with OC/Canon fans, if you go around bitching about haters your just looking like a whining little idiot who takes things to heart.

One more thing before I end, and this is not to convert people to liking OC/Canon but more a thought. If you like Something like Canon/Canon consider this, someone had to come up with an idea for that character, just like people come up with their Original Characters, so if you think about it, all Canon characters started off as OCs.

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ZeldaWolfPrincess Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't say that every OC is a Mary Sue/Gary Stu. The problem is that they usually are. Besides, pairing the OC with the canon character usually messes up with all the official story. That's why I don't like that kind of pairings.
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AquosBoost Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2015  Student Digital Artist
if you want to keep your official story intact, keep to the canon.
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ZeldaWolfPrincess Featured By Owner May 11, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
One or two OCs are okay: but they shouldn't shadow other characters., or mess with the canon's personalities or sexuality. OCs should be paired to other OCs because, no matter what, if a canon starts going all lovey-dovey after your OC and they already have a love interest in the official plot, then you are doing it DEFINITELY wrong. Examples: Akise from Mirai Nikki would never fall for a girl OC, because he is gay and already likes Yukiteru; Envy from Fullmetal Alchemist would never fall for an OC as he's a homunculus, meaning unable to feel love; Sasuke would never fall for an OC because Kishimoto had Sasusaku's being canon stuck in mind since they first started the anime, etc...
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AquosBoost Featured By Owner May 11, 2015  Student Digital Artist
And why not? I can understand keeping canon character traits intact (eg. who they would be attracted to, though there's no reason someone couldn't be bisexual/pansexual). But there's nothing stopping you from creating a dynamic OC that would be paired with one of the canon characters aside from you being a whingy "YOU'RE SCREWING UP CANON!!!!!!!!!" twit.

OCs should be paired to other OCs because, no matter what, if a canon starts going all lovey-dovey after your OC and they already have a love interest in the official plot, then you are doing it DEFINITELY wrong. 

I want you to define how someone writing something, in an alternate universe where the main character didn't hook up with their love interest, but instead hooked up with an OC, could be "DEFINITELY wrong" (in a medium where there IS no right or wrong).
Also, what about single canon characters? Just about everyone in Danganronpa is single, and it's safe to assume everyone's bisexual (it's even implied Teruteru Hanamura is pansexual). Now, what reason do you have to not pair someone up?
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ZeldaWolfPrincess Featured By Owner May 12, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Um, well. Aside for the fact I don't know what Danganronpa is, if fanfictions just start changing everything, they are not fanfictions anymore. They are own stories where the characters have the same names from another franchise. Adding OCs can be good, if there isn't a canon character who would fit the place you have in mind for that story, but, let's face it. Would Juri from Street Fighter (who has been confirmed as a lesbian), a sadistic, edonistic, pityless woman ever become a fluffy and sappy little girl for a male OC? No. I do not deny that OC x canon can (SOMETIMES) be logical and well-written, without the canon going OOC, but it is really, REALLY rare. Therefore, I suggest to fic writers, especially if not expert, to stick to canon as much as possible, to avoid creating Mary Sues/Gary Stues. I know from personal experience how easy it is to write one (thankfully I never publicated that story), and I also know how annoying is to read about them. Also, I don't see why making everyone bisexual/pansexual. It is statistically impossible to have all the characters in a franchise gay/bisexual/pansexual/whateversexual (uneless it's set during a gay pride, but oh well).
Single canon characters? Sure, why not. Just make sure that:
They don't have a love interest and the other simply hasn't noticed
They are interested into the OC's gender
They don't mysteriously change personality when they meet the OC (a blushing and stuttering Sebastian from Kuroshitsuji is not credible)
The OC is not a freaking Mary Sue!
Before you ask, yes. I hate Mary Sues. I hate Mary Sues with a passion, because they give a bad exanple to kids. And I hate them because they can completely ruin a fairly good story.
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AquosBoost Featured By Owner May 12, 2015  Student Digital Artist
OK, so because you don't like 'mary sues/gary stus' (and i can almost fucking guarentee you don't know the actual definition, based on this little excerpt: They don't have a love interest and the other simply hasn't noticed
They are interested into the OC's gender
They don't mysteriously change personality when they meet the OC (a blushing and stuttering Sebastian from Kuroshitsuji is not credible)
The OC is not a freaking Mary Sue!
), everyone should bend over and stop placing OCs into the canon? 

lmao no. Surprisingly, not every writer of fanfiction is here to cater to your interests/bigoted views of what should be in a fanfiction. 

 Also, I don't see why making everyone bisexual/pansexual. It is statistically impossible to have all the characters in a franchise gay/bisexual/pansexual/whateversexual 

Except most of the population on earth is actually bisexual (Christianity has just engrained into the population's heads that homosexuality is a sin)? Also, what about romance? Someone could be biromantic/panromantic and still be heterosexual. Besides, there are so fucking few stories with gay couples, everything out there is as straight as a pencil. 

if fanfictions just start changing everything, they are not fanfictions anymore.
isn't
isn't that the whole fucking point of a fanfiction?
You change the setting and plot, and write the characters into that? If I wanted to see the Bakugan Battle Brawlers do their brawling thing, I'd pick up a copy of the DVD and watch that. If I wanted to see them go to the beach, get a time-setting change and go on an rpg-styled adventure, or fight each other in giant mecha suits over the last jelly baby, i'd pick up a fanfiction. 
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ZeldaWolfPrincess Featured By Owner May 31, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
You don't see what I'm trying to say. Also, who are you to tell me I'm close minded and bigoted? Do you know me? No. Then fuck off.
This debate is obviously going anywhere. You think my arguments are unreasonable, and I think the same of yours. We should end this now, it will just make us both frustrated.
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AquosBoost Featured By Owner May 31, 2015  Student Digital Artist
All I can see you're trying to say is "TRAMPLE CREATIVITY WITH SOURCES YOU ARE GIVEN BECAUSE YOU'LL RUIN THE CANON OTHERWISE", little forgetting that the canon shall not be ruined by 1 person taking a creative stride with the series.
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sonicwarriors7 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I do have some OC X Canon pairings but it usually ends with the FC realizing that the Canon person likes another. Or it can be the other way around. 
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Aka-DenSuFreak Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like canonxOC and I have no problem with it. Same thing with if a person does not like OCxcanon then that's fine, not everyone is gonna think the same opinion. I do not care either way but the moment they diss off OCxCanon really bad, yeah, i'm gonna go something about it.
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StellarFairy Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I freakin' love OCxCanon, so I don't care if someone doesn't support it. It's his/her opinion, and I respect it.
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AngelicCupcake Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
True. There is nothing wrong with OC/Canon, as long you don't start doing stupid things and your OC is not a recolour :/
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Kell0x Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2011
A lot of times I witness OCXcannon artist buttering the male character. I am sorry But If you really believe Sasuke would be lovely dovely to your character like that then did you read any of the Naruto Chapters?

They hate every couple that has to do with favorite male characters, you be amazed how many Sonic fangirls shameless draw kill art of Sally Acorn or treat Amy Rose as a real possible treat to their romance even trough none of these characters exist.

Most of these female characters are..well sues. And sues are just bad cannon or oc. :/

They put up signatures like: Harry Potter is mine and mine alone! which is kind of creepy.


Again not saying all but I do notice this a lot. I am very cool with the cool ones but personally its much more fun to make your own original parings or pair your oc's with your friends oc's. Because if you place an OC in a story it becomes a fan character and you be limited from your own imagination and creativity which kinda sucks. But you have to since the characters and story do not belong to you. Only the fc.
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JaybieJarrett Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I am a supporter of decent OCxCanon and I have to say I agree on the bashing bit. I hate it when OC fans hate on the female characters. It is also really creepy and immature. Personally I will be hesitant to read anything by someone who draws kill fic of the female characters.
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Boundwithflame Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2011  Student General Artist
Well as far as the Sonic fanbase is concerned having your fan character paired with a canon character automatically establishes said fan character as a Gary Stu/Mary Sue. At least that's what I've gathered. But I think it's mainly recolors that are guilty of this...mind you I'm referring to recolors like Shadvic and Gyro that don't give credit.

But I agree as well. There's nothing wrong with OCxCanon as long as you have...I guess...limits.
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Boundwithflame Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2011  Student General Artist
Also said recolors are godmodded as hell in the first place anyway.

Meh...I'm not a huge fan of OCxCanon but I'm not one to say it's bad. Like my views on MLP:FiM I'm more neutral on the subject.
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digitaleva Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2011
To each their own, right?
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nichodo Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
Thanks for posting this.

I LOVE OC'S/Canons.
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Skystalker Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2011  Student Digital Artist
I'm more sick of OCs pretty much taking over the entire plot of a series when they're paired with a canon chara. :lol: Like everything revolves around them, their importance, their power, etc. It just gets irritating.

Though who am I to stop anyone? :shrug: Even those who dont do that, if you wanna pair 'em, pair 'em. :lol: Shippers gonna ship. There's really no use in raging about what other people are into anyway. It's all fictional in the end. XD
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Lentertament Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
This is where I sort of agree, it get's anoying when an OC turns out to be the main focus of a plot, for example they are the only thing that's stopping evil from distroying the group, it would be more 'realistic' if it was that the group would have to work together. I could understand if the story was about say the OC's Backstory, but if they become sort of the main focus of every dame thing then it sort of makes them look Sue-ish.

And your right, it's fiction in the end so why get into a fit about it? it's an opinion, it's depends on taest if you like it or not. And like I said, if you go on a rage fit your kind of making yourself look like an idiot.
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MoonlightVegas Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
Thank you so much for making this,

I agree fully with this.
I mean, in all honesty, I see nothing wrong with FC X OC if the main goal is to have fun.
While I do not support Mary Sues X OCs, I like to see what others can create,
and FC X OC does not necessarily mean you're uncreative.
Ive had many arguments and debates over this topic, I cannot bring myself to just write it all over again.

All I can say is, you did wonderful with this, finally someone created something the summarizes my main view on this topic.

I like it, you dont have to, but please dont rage at me as I will not rage at you. <3
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